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2023 Murder TrialtranscripttranscriptTom Darnell — Direct/Cross/Redirect/Voir Dire - Day 8 - 2023 Murder TrialSLED fingerprint examiner Tom Darnell testified about processing firearms, ammunition, and a phone, none of which produced fingerprint evidence suitable for comparison.
Savannah M. GoudeDick HarpootlianClifton NewmanTom DarnellJudge NewmanMs. GoudeCourt ClerkTom DarnellMr. Harpootlianvoir_diredirectcrossredirect
2023 Murder Trial/Day 8/February 3, 2023
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SLED fingerprint examiner Tom Darnell testified about processing firearms, ammunition, and a phone, none of which produced fingerprint evidence suitable for comparison.
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JUDGE NEWMAN: All right. Welcome back. Day number ten, the State's case. Next witness.

23:26:07

MS. GOUDE: The State calls Tom Darnell.

33:26:12

The witness, THOMAS EDWARD DARNELL, was first duly sworn and testified as follows:

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COURT CLERK: Take a seat in the witness stand. State your name again for the record. Spell your last name.

53:26:34

TOM DARNELL: My name is Thomas Edward Darnell. Last name is spelled D-a-r-n-e-l-l.

63:26:42

VOIR DIRE EXAMINATION

73:26:43

BY MS. GOUDE:

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MS. GOUDE: Good morning, Agent Darnell.

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TOM DARNELL: Good morning.

103:26:47

MS. GOUDE: Could you tell the jurors where you work?

113:26:50

TOM DARNELL: I am a fingerprint examiner at the State Law Enforcement Division Forensic Crime Lab.

123:26:56

MS. GOUDE: And how long have you been a fingerprint examiner for SLED?

133:27:01

TOM DARNELL: For approximately thirty years.

143:27:03

MS. GOUDE: Can you tell us some of your training, education that you've had?

153:27:10

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am. To begin with, I have a Bachelor of Science degree in criminal justice from the University of South Carolina where I graduated in 1982. I started my employment with the Richland County Sheriff's Office in Columbia where I was employed for about eight years. I started my career at SLED in 1990 in the Latent Print Crime Scene Department. During that time I completed an in-house training program that dealt with all aspects of fingerprint and fingerprint science. I've attended a number of courses across the state, as well as out of state courses that deal -- that dealt with all the areas of fingerprint science to include how to process evidence for fingerprints and how to compare fingerprints. And I also trained under the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia, in the same area of fingerprints. I have -- I've also trained other examiners to do the same job that I'm doing today.

163:28:18

MS. GOUDE: Your Honor, at this time the State would move to qualify Agent Tom Darnell as an expert in fingerprint analysis.

173:28:25

JUDGE NEWMAN: What says the defense?

183:28:27

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: No objection.

193:28:29

JUDGE NEWMAN: He's so qualified.

203:28:31

MS. GOUDE: Thank you, Your Honor.

213:28:33

DIRECT EXAMINATION

223:28:33

BY MS. GOUDE:

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MS. GOUDE: All right, Agent Darnell, could you just kind of tell us in general about fingerprint evidence?

243:28:43

TOM DARNELL: Well, basically fingerprint evidence can be most anything. It can be items that are porous, items that are nonporous, items that come to SLED and where we get requested to process and see if we can identify any fingerprints that might on the surface. Fingerprints are primarily moisture. About 98 percent of the fingerprint that may be left on the surface is nothing more than moisture, perspiration, or sweat, if you want to call it sweat. And then once we determine the type of evidence that we have, then we try to develop it. We try to enhance any impressions that might be there. One thing to keep in mind is that in most cases, the fingerprints that we're trying to develop are invisible, basically latents. A latent print means just that, hidden or invisible, so it would require some enhancement.

253:29:41

MS. GOUDE: And how or what is the process of finding these hidden fingerprints?

263:29:47

TOM DARNELL: Well, we have several different techniques that we can use, everything from Superglue fuming to alternate light sources, to fluorescent dye stains, to different chemicals that we can use. There's also the black fingerprint pattern which is still being used. We don't use a whole lot of that in our laboratory today, but we tend to go with the fluorescent dye stains and the different light sources. It just depends on the type of evidence that we're trying to process.

273:30:20

MS. GOUDE: Now, you mentioned -- did you say Superglue fuming?

283:30:23

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

293:30:24

MS. GOUDE: Could you describe how that works?

303:30:26

TOM DARNELL: Superglue, what we do is we take the evidence -- first of all, it has to be a nonporous surface, that evidence --

313:30:34

MS. GOUDE: And if you could give us an example a nonporous surface versus a porous.

323:30:40

TOM DARNELL: Nonporous would be like a can, a gun, a cartridge case. Porous would be like paper: a paper cup, a paper plate, a piece of -- like a handwritten note, or a check, or something like along that line. But the Superglue is a commonly used process across the country. In fact, across the world. And the Superglue is simply heated and it creates a vapor, or a fume, and that vapor will affix itself to any impressions that might be present on the surface. It enables us to see it better, and it also enables us to use a different technique, or a different step of the process when it comes to trying to enhance the impression.

333:31:28

MS. GOUDE: And then that print, I guess, is revealed in the process. What do you do to analyze that print?

343:31:36

TOM DARNELL: Well, once we get the print developed, we photograph -- have it photographed. We have the luxury of having a photo studio within our laboratory, and we have a photographer that will document that for us photographically so that we can then compare it to any known standards that we may be asked to compare it to.

353:31:58

MS. GOUDE: So, you would use the photograph for comparison purposes.

363:32:00

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

373:32:00

MS. GOUDE: You don't do any kind of lifts of the print or anything like that.

383:32:06

TOM DARNELL: I have -- I've done lots of lifts over my career with the black powder and the clear tape, which is what most of you are probably familiar with. But in this case it was -- black powder was not used. This was -- I was working strictly off of the photograph.

393:32:22

MS. GOUDE: So, you did receive some items to test in this case for fingerprints?

403:32:28
413:32:29

MS. GOUDE: I'm going to have you take a look at State's Exhibits 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, and 68. Are those 300 Blackout shell casings that you received to process for fingerprint evidence?

423:32:54
433:32:55

MS. GOUDE: And did you find any evidence on those cases?

443:32:59

TOM DARNELL: Actually I did not. There was what we call -- the result that I used with these items was that there was no fingerprint evidence was observed.

453:33:10

MS. GOUDE: Would you expect to find fingerprint evidence on fired cases?

463:33:14

TOM DARNELL: We don't find a lot of developed prints on cartridge cases. It does happen we do find fingerprints on cartridge cases but just not a great deal. A lot of that has to do with the fact that the cartridge cases are -- they're exposed to heat, they're exposed to friction, and since fingerprints are so fragile, a lot of times that is probably a couple of reasons why we don't find a lot of prints on cartridge cases.

473:33:46

MS. GOUDE: All right. Did you also receive State's Exhibit 33 and 34 to test for or examine for fingerprint evidence?

483:33:59
493:34:00

MS. GOUDE: Did you find any fingerprint evidence on those shotshells?

503:34:05

TOM DARNELL: I did not.

513:34:07

MS. GOUDE: Again, would you expect to find fingerprint evidence on items of that nature?

523:34:13

TOM DARNELL: You know, we always make the attempt. Sometimes we're surprised when we process evidence that something will develop. We -- I personally don't have a -- I've not had a lot of success with getting prints on shotshells, not to say that it hasn't happened.

533:34:30

MS. GOUDE: And you said you've been doing this for about thirty years?

543:34:33

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

553:34:34

MS. GOUDE: And in that time, have you ever found yourself a fingerprint on a fired case or shotshell?

563:34:42

TOM DARNELL: I can't recall that I have developed anything that I could identify. I have developed ridge detail, or I have developed fingerprints on cartridge cases, but I can't recall honestly having a case where I was able to actually identify it.

573:35:02

MS. GOUDE: Did you also receive a shotgun to collect for fingerprint evidence?

583:35:07
593:35:09

MS. GOUDE: That being State's Exhibit 4, a Benelli Super Black Eagle 3. Did you find any fingerprint evidence on that weapon?

603:35:18

TOM DARNELL: I did not.

613:35:20

MS. GOUDE: What else did you do with that weapon while you had it?

623:35:24

TOM DARNELL: One of the -- there was an additional request to have it swabbed for touch DNA, which I did. I swabbed various areas of the shotgun for DNA purposes.

633:35:36

MS. GOUDE: And I'll hand you State's Exhibit 307. Are those the swabs that you collected from that shotgun?

643:35:46

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am. It has the date that I collected it, it has my name and my initials, and -- on the envelopes, as well as on the CD.

653:35:58

MS. GOUDE: Your Honor, at this time we would move State's 307 into evidence, the swabs from the shotgun.

663:36:06

JUDGE NEWMAN: What says the defense?

673:36:09

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: I'm not sure which shotgun.

683:36:12

MS. GOUDE: From the Benelli that was recovered at the scene.

693:36:15

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: That Mr. Murdaugh had?

703:36:17
713:36:18

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: No objection.

723:36:19

JUDGE NEWMAN: It's admitted.

733:36:20

(BENELLI SHOTGUN MARKED AS STATE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 307 WAS RECEIVED INTO EVIDENCE.)

743:36:24

MS. GOUDE: And do you recall where on that gun that you collected those swabs?

753:36:28

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

763:36:29

MS. GOUDE: Could you tell the jury?

773:36:31

TOM DARNELL: If I could look at my notes real quick? I swabbed the trigger, I swabbed the rear stock, front stock, and the ejection leaver on the shotgun. Yes, that's the two areas that I swabbed.

783:36:48

MS. GOUDE: And why would you have swabbed those particular areas?

793:36:53

TOM DARNELL: Well, typically in a case involving guns, shotguns, pistols, we typically swab the trigger separately to possibly get a print on the trigger as to who might have last had their finger on the trigger. And then we swab other areas of the gun that might be more conducive for touch DNA versus latent prints. Any time we get something that we have a latent print request and a DNA request, we have to try to determine which area to swab, which area is typically handled by someone that might give us the best chance for any type of forensic evidence, whether it be DNA or latent prints.

803:37:39

MS. GOUDE: Did you also swab the head stamps of those two shotshells?

813:37:45

TOM DARNELL: Yes, I did.

823:37:46

MS. GOUDE: And those swabs are in State's 307 up there, the other swabs. Is that correct?

833:37:54

TOM DARNELL: That's correct.

843:37:55

MS. GOUDE: Did you have an occasion to also examine Paul's cell phone?

853:38:03
863:38:05

MS. GOUDE: I'm going to hand you State's Exhibit 309. Are those the swabs that you collected from Paul Murdaugh's cell phone?

873:38:21

TOM DARNELL: These are swabs I took from a cell phone. I don't know for sure whose phone it was, but these are swabs that I took from the phone, which was my Item 25.

883:38:30

MS. GOUDE: And could you refer to your report to tell us what Item 25 is listed as?

893:38:32

TOM DARNELL: Item 25 is listed as a -- one IPhone cell phone black in color with a clear case.

903:38:52

MS. GOUDE: Your Honor, at this time the State would move to admit State's Exhibit 309.

913:38:57

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: No objection.

923:38:58

JUDGE NEWMAN: It's admitted.

933:38:59

(SWABS MARKED AS STATE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 309 WERE RECEIVED INTO EVIDENCE.)

943:39:02

MS. GOUDE: Did you also examine that cell phone for fingerprints?

953:39:05
963:39:06

MS. GOUDE: Did you find any fingerprints on the phone?

973:39:09

TOM DARNELL: I did not find anything that I could identify. I found a very small amount of fingerprint evidence on the phone. The result that I had to render was what we refer to as no value for comparison, which what that simply means is that there was the evidence of someone's fingers having come in contact with the phone, but it just was not enough detail or not enough clarity for me to be able to compare it to anyone.

983:39:42

MS. GOUDE: Do you recall examining some other shotguns or rifles in this case?

993:39:48

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

1003:39:49

MS. GOUDE: That would be a 300 Blackout rifle, a Mossberg shotgun, a Browning shotgun, and another Benelli shotgun?

1013:39:57

TOM DARNELL: That's correct.

1023:39:59

MS. GOUDE: Did you find any fingerprints on any of those guns?

1033:40:05

TOM DARNELL: Nothing that I could identify. Again, the result of no value for comparison was the result that I reported.

1043:40:14

MS. GOUDE: And if a gun is -- has a camouflaged print, for example, would that make it harder to find fingerprints on that weapon?

1053:40:23

TOM DARNELL: Well, not necessarily. We have different -- we have some very bright lights that we would use to help us pick up anything that might be on the camouflage type surface. Keep in mind, we're spraying a fluorescent dye stain prior to using the light source, so that does help us see the prints much better. There are some areas on these shotguns that were, like, textured, which would not be very conducive to prints, but as far as a camouflaged area, it makes it a little harder to see, but we do have the means to be able to analyze it thoroughly.

1063:41:06

MS. GOUDE: And these items that we've been talking about, when you process them for fingerprint evidence, do you use the Superglue fuming method?

1073:41:15

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

1083:41:16

MS. GOUDE: While you were processing those guns, did you collect swabs from each gun?

1093:41:22

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am.

1103:41:24

MS. GOUDE: I'm going to hand you State's Exhibit 308. If you could, take a look at that.

1113:41:31

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am. These are the envelopes that I placed the swab from the shotguns. It's got my date, initials, and where it came from on the shotgun.

1123:41:44

MS. GOUDE: Your Honor, at this time the State would move State's Exhibit 308 into evidence.

1133:41:51

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: No objection.

1143:41:52

JUDGE NEWMAN: Admitted.

1153:41:53

(SWABS MARKED AS STATE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 308 WERE RECEIVED INTO EVIDENCE.)

1163:41:58

MS. GOUDE: Now, did you receive a 30 round magazine that was full of 300 Blackout cartridges?

1173:42:06
1183:42:08

MS. GOUDE: Did you test that item for fingerprint evidence?

1193:42:12
1203:42:13

MS. GOUDE: Did you find any fingerprints on that magazine?

1213:42:16

TOM DARNELL: It was, again, as the shotguns, it was all no value for comparison.

1223:42:23

MS. GOUDE: What about each of the bullets that was in that magazine? Did you examine them in any way?

1233:42:30

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am. I took each one of them out of the magazine and processed all of them individually.

1243:42:35

MS. GOUDE: Did you find any fingerprint evidence on those bullets?

1253:42:38

TOM DARNELL: No, ma'am, I did not.

1263:42:40

MS. GOUDE: And what did you do with these swabs that you collected?

1273:42:44

TOM DARNELL: Once I collected swabs, I allow them to air dry, and then once I secured them in the envelopes, I seal them, put my date, initials, and then I package them up accordingly, and they ultimately wind up with the DNA department. I believe in this case I took them down to our Evidence Control department, and then DNA will pick them up from there.

1283:43:12

MS. GOUDE: All right. One moment, Mr. Darnell.

1293:43:15

(Break in proceedings.)

1303:43:17

MS. GOUDE: No further questions from the State at this time. If you'll answer any questions from the defense.

1313:43:27

JUDGE NEWMAN: By the defense?

1323:43:29

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Please the Court, Your Honor?

1333:43:33

CROSS-EXAMINATION

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BY MR. HARPOOTLIAN:

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MR. HARPOOTLIAN: All these items were processed in the lab. Is that correct?

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TOM DARNELL: That's correct, yes, sir.

1373:43:41

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And help me to understand this. You processed three shotguns?

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TOM DARNELL: I believe that was right, yes, sir.

1393:43:54

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: You processed -- were any of them loaded with shotgun shells?

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TOM DARNELL: I don't recall them being loaded.

1413:44:02

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: So, you did not process any of the -- if they were loaded, you didn't process any of the shells then.

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TOM DARNELL: I -- normally when a weapon comes into the laboratory, it's cleared and unloaded prior to it getting to our laboratory. So, had they been unloaded I would have -- or had they been loaded, they would have been unloaded prior to me receiving them, and I would have processed what had been inside the weapon at that time.

1433:44:30

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: So, the weapon we identified earlier as -- and I apologize -- Number 22, Item Number 22, the camo Benelli Super -- I'm sorry -- yeah, the Benelli Black Eagle with two unfired shotgun shells, you processed that at the lab?

1443:45:04

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir.

1453:45:06

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Was the gun loaded when it came to you?

1463:45:10

TOM DARNELL: My notes do not indicate that it was loaded. And as I said, normally when a weapon, a shotgun, comes into the laboratory, it's unloaded prior to it coming to me. My notes indicate that it was not loaded.

1473:45:26

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And the other shotguns, I mean, I've looked at your analysis on them. There were no fingerprints of evidentiary value on the three other shotguns, right?

1483:45:37

TOM DARNELL: That's correct.

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MR. HARPOOTLIAN: But there's no indication that you processed the -- if they had been loaded and unloaded, any of those shotgun shells, correct?

1503:45:45

TOM DARNELL: That's correct. I only processed what was given -- what was brought into the laboratory.

1513:45:51

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And you processed those on June 9th. Is that correct?

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TOM DARNELL: That sounds right, yes, sir, June 9th.

1533:46:01

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Now, the cartridges, there's the bullet, and then there's the cases that are typical within a semiautomatic weapon. Were you ever asked to -- you were asked to process the ejected cartridges that were involved in the murder, correct, the 308s -- I mean, the 300 Blackouts?

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TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir.

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MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And those had been fired, and what you indicated was once a bullet or a shotgun shell has been fired, it heats up. Is that why you can't get a fingerprint off of it?

1563:46:38

TOM DARNELL: Well, that would be one possible explanation, heat, friction. They're on the ground and the weather can have an affect sometimes if it's raining, or if it's hot or cold. There are lots of things that could have an affect on whether or not a print would be left.

1573:46:52

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And I think your testimony is it's not -- rarely never found fingerprints on an expended casing. Is that correct?

1583:47:01

TOM DARNELL: Well, I wouldn't say rarely never. I know of cases in our laboratory that have been where they have been able to identify prints on cartridge cases. It just doesn't happen very often, but it does happen.

1593:47:16

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Okay, but then you processed a number of -- there was a magazine with the number of 308 -- I mean, 300 Blackout shells that had never been fired, correct?

1603:47:29

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir.

1613:47:30

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Bullets, I'm sorry.

1623:47:31

TOM DARNELL: That's correct.

1633:47:32

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And that's a brass -- piece of brass, right?

1643:47:34

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir.

1653:47:34

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: I mean, is a piece of brass conducive to fingerprints?

1663:47:39

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir. It can be, yes, sir.

1673:47:42

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Any evidence these bullets in the -- the bullets had been wiped or something, or just give the -- please explain to the jury why you would normally get fingerprints off of a piece of brass, an unspent bullet. Why is that?

1683:47:55

TOM DARNELL: Well, you've got to keep in mind that a latent print is nothing more than -- or mostly moisture. They are very fragile. It doesn't take much to wipe a print off of a surface. These -- the cartridges, I think, that you're speaking of were in the magazine, so they've been shoved into a magazine, and then they -- then -- you know, then you've got to get them out. So, so you've, you've got friction there going on, but most any -- you know, anything that -- any surface that's smooth and fairly clean and not corrugated or textured can be conducive to prints. I have developed prints on cartridges before; it just doesn't happen very often.

1693:48:41

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: But, again, it's a brass surface. It's almost a polished brass surface. But you say because it's mostly moisture -- isn't there some oil involved in there, or am I wrong about that?

1703:48:51

TOM DARNELL: Well, you would have -- as far as the -- coming from the fingerprint, from the fingers or from --

1713:48:57

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Well, I mean, the fingers is always just moisture?

1723:49:00

TOM DARNELL: It's mostly 98 to 99 percent moisture, and then you might have some other substances mixed in there, but it's mostly just sweat is what's left behind.

1733:49:10

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: You do retrieve fingerprints occasionally. Do you not find -- do you find fingerprints on things?

1743:49:14

TOM DARNELL: Oh, yes, sir. I find -- I've developed quite a few prints in my thirty years of doing this.

1753:49:22

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Okay, and once you develop a print, you can compare it based on -- how many points do you have to have to do a comparison to make them match?

1763:49:29

TOM DARNELL: Well, there's no set number in this country where you have to have a certain minimum number of points. You just have to have a sufficient amount of clarity and -- to be able to determine that an impression was made by a certain individual.

1773:49:47

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Okay. Did you ever go to the scene of these murders?

1783:49:51

TOM DARNELL: No, sir, I did not.

1793:49:53

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: You were not called out that night?

1803:49:55

TOM DARNELL: No, sir.

1813:49:56

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: So the forensic folks that went out there, to your knowledge, did they throw any powder down? Did they do anything to find any fingerprints that night?

1823:50:07

TOM DARNELL: I honestly don't know. I did not look at their notes from their crime scene or what have you. I really had no real reason to. I was just asked to process the things that they brought me.

1833:50:23

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Let me ask you this. You've got a doorknob right here, a doorknob. I just grabbed it to open it. It's brass. Would that leave a fingerprint?

1843:50:36

TOM DARNELL: It's possible. You have -- again, you have to consider how much someone perspires when they touch something. You have to consider how soon after the doorknob was touched that someone else grabbed the doorknob. Because the latent print is extremely fragile, it doesn't take much no obliterate the print.

1853:50:59

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: But you would check. If you were on the scene, you would look.

1863:51:04

TOM DARNELL: If I was on the scene and I felt like that area was accessed by someone, I probably would have checked, yes, sir.

1873:51:12

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: I mean, if the -- it appeared that there had been a shotgun blast to the victim inside a room behind that door and you didn't know whether the door was opened or closed before that person was shepherded in there or walked in there, you would want to at least look at the knob, right?

1883:51:38

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir. I probably would, but I was not on this scene, so I don't really know exactly what all they had going on. So -- but it could -- with your scenario that you're speaking of, yes, sir, I probably would have checked.

1893:51:52

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And you would expect to see notes somewhere from the crime scene folks that they looked at the doorknob. You can't just eyeball it. Don't you have to put some powder on it, or don't you have to put something on it to raise the visibility of the fingerprint?

1903:52:06

TOM DARNELL: Well, yes, sir. In some cases you can actually see a print if it's more of what we call a patent print. A patent print is a print that might left behind with a -- you know, in a residue. It could be in grease, it could be in blood, it could be in dirt, anything such as that. So -- but ordinarily when you go to look for prints, you've got to do some sort of processing to a surface, depending on the surface and depending on just what you're trying to -- what you're trying to do.

1913:52:36

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: So, if you had a relatively small room where somebody's head had exploded and blood and all kinds of bodily fluids were sprayed over the inside of that room, you would want to take a meticulous examination of that room to see if there were any fingerprints in blood or other bodily fluids, would you not? Would you?

1923:53:01

TOM DARNELL: I would, yes, sir.

1933:53:03

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Okay, and you would expect to see something in some report by the crime scene folks where they actually did such an examination, would you not? Would you expect to see notes detailing if they at least looked at it?

1943:53:16

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir. I mean, you know, I -- again, this is -- you know, I wasn't at this scene. I can -- but if you're describing this type of a scene, if it was me, I would take notes, you know, detailed notes, you know, because, you know, photographs, notes, sketches, all of that kind of goes hand in hand.

1953:53:36

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: But there should have been -- well, strike that. You would also expect to see any surface that could have come into contact with the perpetrator to have been processed, either photographed or processed in some way. You would expect to see that in the notes of the crime scene investigators, correct?

1963:54:00

TOM DARNELL: I would think in the notes or in their, you know, testimony, or anything such as that. You know, there should be something to explain what was done, yes, sir.

1973:54:16

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Okay. Do you know if there was a fingerprint person or somebody that was skilled in the crime scene team that came out there?

1983:54:26

TOM DARNELL: I don't know. I know that there was no one from the Latent Print Department where I work at the scene that day.

1993:54:36

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Do you go out to crime scenes? Do you go to crime scenes?

2003:54:40

TOM DARNELL: I've done plenty in my earlier days, but I have -- I have not been on crime scenes for quite some time.

2013:54:47

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: You have people in your latent print unit that do go to crime scenes.

2023:54:53

TOM DARNELL: Not really. The Latent Print Department, the way it was set up, we pretty much are in the laboratory setting and we process evidence that comes in from crime scenes. We don't typically go to the crime scene.

2033:55:08

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And so -- and I guess I'm summarizing this. Everything they had you look at you looked in the lab.

2043:55:15

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir.

2053:55:16

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And you found no -- when I say identifiable prints, it sounds to me like you found no evidence of any prints.

2063:55:23

TOM DARNELL: Well, I found -- any time I report something as no value for comparison, that means that I did find evidence of fingerprints. It just wasn't enough to compare it to anyone. Any time I say nothing was observed, that means there was nothing observed.

2073:55:40

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: So -- and they listed all of these, other than the no value for comparison on the cell phone. That would mean you saw something but you didn't have enough to compare.

2083:55:54

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir. And, you know, it was no value. You know, keep in mind again: latents are fragile. You've got weather involved, you know, water, rain. That sort of thing certainly is detrimental to fingerprint evidence being left behind.

2093:56:15

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Other than the cell phone, everyone else says no fingerprint evidence was observed. That would mean there was nothing, not even a partial, right?

2103:56:24

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir. Any time that result is in the report, that's what that means, yes, sir.

2113:56:29

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: But other than the cell phone, you didn't even find any evidence of fingerprints, not a partial, not a smudge, not anything.

2123:56:35

TOM DARNELL: Well, I believe there were some additional long guns that came in to me where I did get no value for comparison, but the initial shotgun that came in to me, nothing was observed, yes, sir.

2133:56:50

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: The initial shotgun would have been Number 22.

2143:56:54

TOM DARNELL: Yes, sir, that's correct.

2153:56:56

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Would it surprise you to know that Mr. Murdaugh was seen holding that shotgun and actually retrieved it from his house?

2163:57:10

MS. GOUDE: Objection, Your Honor. Counsel is testifying.

2173:57:15

JUDGE NEWMAN: Response.

2183:57:17

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: I'm just citing evidence that the State has already put into evidence. I'm not testifying to it because these are facts that have already been established by the State. He's an expert; he can opine.

2193:57:28
2203:57:29

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: He is an expert; therefore, he can give an opinion.

2213:57:36

JUDGE NEWMAN: The objection is overruled.

2223:57:38

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Would it surprise you to know that Mr. Murdaugh was seen that evening when the first responder came holding that shotgun, and the State has indicated -- I mean, that's not in conflict. No one is challenging that, and yet there were no -- I mean, you found no evidence of fingerprints. Is that correct?

2233:58:02

TOM DARNELL: Right. Yes, sir. And, you know, that's -- you know, prints aren't always left on surfaces when you touch them. You know, just because you touch something does not mean you're going to leave a print, and there are all kind of variables as to why.

2243:58:16

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: But you would agree with me you found no prints on any of the items you were asked to examine. Cartridge cases, fired, unfired, shotguns, the shells in the shotguns, you just found no prints whatsoever.

2253:58:29

TOM DARNELL: I found none of value for comparison, which tells me that there was something there but it just wasn't of value.

2263:58:38

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: And it's only on the cell phone.

2273:58:38

TOM DARNELL: The cell phone, and then the additional long guns that came in to me later, yes, sir.

2283:58:57

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Beg the Court's indulgence.

2293:59:03

(Break in proceedings.)

2303:59:06

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Thank you, sir. No more questions.

2313:59:10

JUDGE NEWMAN: Any redirect?

2323:59:11

MS. GOUDE: Briefly, Your Honor.

2333:59:12

REDIRECT EXAMINATION

2343:59:13

BY MS. GOUDE:

2353:59:14

MS. GOUDE: Agent Darnell, you were previously lieutenant of Crime Scene?

2363:59:16

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am. I was actually promoted to lieutenant over the Latent Print Crime Scene Department in 1998, where I was in that role for about six years.

2373:59:28

MS. GOUDE: And in your experience in that position, are crime scene personnel trained to look for latent prints at a crime scene?

2383:59:36

TOM DARNELL: Yes, ma'am. Back when I was a lieutenant over the crime scene department, we used to do the crime scene. We did the printing; we did everything. Now it's two separate departments. We have a latent print department, and we have a crime scene department. The crime scene department, as I understand it, they are trained in how to process crime scenes, which would include how to process certain things on scene for fingerprints. In other words, if it was something that was large and not, not, not able to transport back to the laboratory, they are -- they do have -- they do get some training in how to process for prints.

2394:00:20

MS. GOUDE: And with such a bloody scene, did you get any bloody prints in this case?

2404:00:23

TOM DARNELL: I was not submitted any bloody prints in this case.

2414:00:33

MS. GOUDE: Thank you. Nothing further.

2424:00:37

JUDGE NEWMAN: Anything further?

2434:00:40

MR. HARPOOTLIAN: Nothing further, Your Honor.

2444:00:44

JUDGE NEWMAN: Thank you. You may step down.

2454:00:50

TOM DARNELL: Thank you, sir.

2464:00:53

(The witness exited the stand.)